The next day it was off to the Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredia vet school in Lima, for a presentation to about 40 interested students and faculty, followed by this meeting with the faculty. Most were supportive of the idea of humane alternatives, other than the physiology academic at the left (just like when I was a student!), who strongly believed in having her students perform invasive animal experiments. By the end though, eyes had been opened and bridges formed, and she assured me she allowed alternatives for students who requested them.